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Heidi Trost: Human Centered Security

Episode 134 of the Design Better Podcast

Designing a good security experience is hard. Every time we run into one of those security captchas that requires you to “identify all the motorcycles” in the tiled images, we want to give up and surrender to our robot overlords…or throw our laptop out the window.

Our guest today, Heidi Trost, just published a book called Human-Centered Security: How to Design Systems That Are Both Safe and Usable. In the book, Heidi aims to help people who are “tired of hearing things like ‘humans are the weakest link’ and instead want to focus on designing more secure, more resilient systems.”

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In our conversation, we spoke with Heidi about the metrics we can use to measure the quality of the security experience, why the login/password recovery is so broken—even for companies that are good at UX design—and some ways to approach user testing for security.

Bio

Heidi Trost is a UX leader who helps cross-disciplinary teams improve the security user experience. With a background in UX research, Heidi does this by helping teams better understand the people they are designing for, as well as the security threats that may impact people and systems negatively. Heidi is also the host of the podcast, Human-Centered Security, where she interviews security experts and people who design for the security user experience. When not thinking about security, you can find her in a sunny spot reading a book, hiking, or riding horses.


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Insights from the episode

Below are some insights drawn from our interview with Heidi, including a framework for UX security improvement, and user reseach approaches for security.

1. Security is a User Experience Issue

Heidi emphasizes that security challenges are fundamentally UX issues:

"This is really a user experience issue... When I can't log in, when I get a phishing email or something that looks suspicious and I say to myself, is it legitimate? Is it deceptive? ... When I have to enable two-factor authentication, I know I should, but it's really, really annoying."

This reframes security from a purely technical consideration to one that directly impacts user satisfaction and product adoption.

2. The Security Ecosystem Has Three Key Players

Heidi presents a framework for understanding security design challenges:

"There are kind of like three main players in this ecosystem. So you have your end user, and I like to call her Alice... And then you have the security user experience, which I like to personify as Charlie... And then you have threat actors."

This dynamic triangle helps explain why security UX is so challenging - changes to any corner affect the others in a continuous cycle.

3. Security Impacts the Entire User Journey

Security isn't just about login screens:

"Security impacts end users at every part of the user journey... Even like the way that you're wording your privacy policies, even the things that you say on your marketing website are impacting the security user experience."

Especially critical is the onboarding phase: "You have kind of the user's focused attention during onboarding and setup. And their decisions at this point in time could mean whether or not their account gets compromised later."

4. Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration is Essential

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